• There has not been much activity by meeting participants or on the mailing list; there may not be much to report.
• Bob is looking for someone to send out meeting notifications and record the meeting, and produce the podcast.
  • But the podcast statistics show minimal usage
• No LibrePlanet Ontario meeting on 24 December 2017, next meeting on Wednesday, 24 January 2018
  • And an In Real Life meeting on Saturday, 24 February 2018

• https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ Purism Librem 5

• Greg spoke with lawyer from CIPPIC
  • Greg needed to explain some concepts of Free Software to the lawyer
  • Discussion of security involved in paper form submission
  • Is the difficulty in getting developer access merely a (poor) way of certifying the tax software?
  • Access to My Account would work well for us, people would perform the submission themselves
  • What would happen if we circulated a spreadsheet to help people fill in their paper forms?
    • Perhaps CRA would disallow that too

• What can be done? Charter challenge? Doubtful.
  • Outreach program is important; judges are a group of people that need to know these issues
• Perhaps Greg will file Freedom Of Information requests to pry out some of this data
• While this project is low on the list of priorities for CIPPIC, Greg will keep in touch, and the lawyer was encouraging.

• https://shop.keyboard.io/ is a keyboard and rudimentary pointing device with no nonfree software in it
  • Uses an Arduino, so it's hackable by the community
  • Expensive ($329 USD), but worth it
  • The keyboard has an expansion header inside, and each key has LED backlight

Text Channel at https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes/2017-10#Text_Channel

• Don't use CTRL+T

• Waterloo Region's Voice over IP Users Group

• Running UFile under Wine
• CRA keeping information hidden under Non-Disclosure Agreements
• What are the competitive advantages between existing and FLOSS tax programs?
• Optimal tax returns: Least tax paid or greatest tax refund
• Are full, complete, optimal tax returns too complex for software to determine?
• Legal issues raised by CRA's reluctance to provide info

• Takes place Saturday, 27 January 2018
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project would make a good KW Linuxfest talk!
• Call For Papers closes 1 November 2017

• Summer's over, is it too late for Street Team Outreach?
• Perhaps we can find another project that can be done on/offline in a distributed manner

• Items needing a SysAdmin will be taken to the mailing list
• Existing upcoming events will stay on the Upcoming Events list, but Bob will no longer add Upcoming Events that are outside of Ontario or not primarily about Free Software

• Saturday, 24 February 2018 we'll try for an In-Real-Life meeting in Toronto
• Need to find a venue that matches our dietary preferences

• Logan Streondj's presentation for the ACM was not accepted, but available at http://liberit.ca:43110/1DYjc22BP5VkqNLJgr3nQfoGiNLbGFGffG

• SFD is on Saturday, 16 September 2017.
• LibrePlanet Ontario members are geographically distributed
• (It is unlikely LibrePlanet Ontario will participate in SFD this year)

• Greg Knittl's requests to the CRA are being ignored
• Greg is seeking legal advice from CIPPIC

• Librem -- A Security and Privacy Focused Phone
• Other phones were discussed
• Phone kernels are written so poorly they're not suitable for mainstream distros

• Respects Your Freedom hardware list

• Logan Streondj (greenmonk) takes us through a demonstration of ZeroNet

LibrePlanet Ontario meeting recordings are copyright by the participants, and released under a Creative Commons Attribution Only 4.0 (CC BY 4.0) license.

The music is "Blackburn Council Wild Ride", created by the Fake Music Generator using the cgMusic software for music generation written by Maciej Biedrzycki.

• LibrePlanet Ontario is on IRC at irc://irc.freenode.net/#lp-ca-on
  • Webchat at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23lp-ca-on
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project FLCTPSP:
  • Greg has applied again this year for "Developer Status" with CRA, along with another Linux developer.
  • CRA now requires more functions in the "mandatory functions" that must be completed, eg. info for online access to your account
  • Otherwise, not much progress since last meeting
• Municipal bylaws, eg. natural gardens in Toronto
• Street Team Outreach
  • Take advantage of KW Linuxfest?
• KW Linuxfest:
  • Call For Presentations is open, closing 1 November 2017
  • Possibility of remote presentations, contact Colin J. Mills at mailto:colin.j.mills96@gmail.com
• ZeroNet "P2P Webhosting"
• Opensource.com Index of millions of Open Source projects
• Ubuntu 16.04 upgrade from 14.04
  • Dropping Unity in 18.04
  • MATE Desktop, Linux Mint LMDE, Trisquel...
  • Prereleased Updates: Synaptic, Software and Updates | Developer Options
• SLE, the Software Language Engineering conference from ACM (23-24 October 2017, Vancouver)
• SysAdminDay Dinner in Kitchener-Waterloo, 28 July 2017

LibrePlanet Ontario meeting recordings are copyright by the participants, and released under a Creative Commons Attribution Only 4.0 license.

The music is "Blackburn Council Wild Ride", created by the Fake Music Generator using the cgMusic software for music generation written by Maciej Biedrzycki.

• IWOCL, the International Workshop on OpenCL, 15-16 May 2017 in Toronto
• Introductions
• Review of the Free/Libre Canadian Tax Pr eparation Software Project
  • Taxpayer Bill Of Rights http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/rc17/rc17-12-16e.pdf
    • "10. You have the right to have the costs of compliance taken into account when administering tax legislation."
    • "11. You have the right to expect us to be accountable."
  • Send a complaint to the CRA?
  • Privacy concerns with e-filing -- sending data through the US?
  • Prototype XSLT scripts developed by Greg to be posted in public repository
  • Alexander Oliva's success with Brazilian tax software
• PYAC, the speakable programming language
  • https://gitlab.com/liberit/pyac
  • Example from README.md:

• YouTube: Using Python to Code by Voice

• Street Team Outreach
  • In-person meetings to expand this project?
    • Poll to choose a meeting date at https://framadate.org/oVNOM99FIddtvyPy
    • Also plan the meeting on the LibrePlanet Ontario mailing list
• World's largest rubber duck

• FreeLibre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
  • Discussion on LibrePlanet mailing list
  • Forms vs. Spreadsheet vs. Accounting software
  • Problems in other countries
  • Maintenance of tax applications is critical
  • There is no "tax form processing software" for the whole world
• Street Team Outreach
  • Have outreach on Digital Freedom Foundation dates, eg. Document Freedom Day?
  • Open Data Day, or the Open Data Book Club
  • Open Data format for tax data? Government promises to have Open Data
• KWVoIP and ERK (Egg Roll King Restaurant)
• Integrating XMPP and SMS with JMP.chat
  • ossguy (Denver Gingrich) and Singpolyma (Stepen Paul Weber)
  • WLSG (Waterloo Libre Software Group and WSIC (Waterloo Students for the Information Commons), student groups at University of Waterloo for Free Software and Free Culture curriculum materials
• HPR (Hacker Public Radio) episode on Tax Software?
• We discuss human language parsing programs
• What GNU+Linux distributions are people using?
  • Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, System Rescue CD
• General Intelligence Programming Challenge
  • Using AI for tax software?
  • Licensing terms by CRA limit our ability to create Free Software tax software
  • Discussion on SPAL/SPEL (PDF, 160 kBytes)
• Other words for Free Software: Libre, Freeware, FAIF software
• Other programming languages

• Planning Free Software Advocacy: Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Street Team Outreach (was: Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software Freedom Day 2016)
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• (Lack of) Event and Project organization on the Mailing List
• Contributing a podcast episode to Hacker Public Radio
• Marc Paré marc@marcpare.com is setting up a LibreOffice Users Group in Waterloo Region

If there's something else you want to discuss, add it to the this agenda!

• LibrePlanet 2017 (Cambridge, Mass., US) - 25-26 March 2017

• Kicking the libreplanetbr.org Mumble server
• Getting involved in Canadian politics; Electoral Reform
• Update on Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• We haven't been using the Mailing list for project management, either the Street Outreach project or the Tax Software project
• Setting up surveillance cameras and the networking involved
• Other LibrePlanet mailing lists: Discussion and a list of lists
• Contributing a future podcast of our meeting to Hacker Public Radio; perhaps create a special episode about the Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• LibreOffice User Group in Waterloo Region, possibly Ontario- or Canada-wide
• Ubuntu 17.04 "Zesty Zapus" Release Party on Thursday, 13 April 2017 at the Alio Restaurant in Toronto

Meeting Notes: Group:LibrePlanet Ontario/Meeting Notes/2017-03-24 - LibrePlanet]]> March 2017 LibrePlanet Ontario meeting https://libreplanet.sobac.com/PodcastGenerator-master/?name=libreplanetontario-2017-03-241.ogg https://libreplanet.sobac.com/PodcastGenerator-master/?name=libreplanetontario-2017-03-241.ogg 1:02:26 bjonkman+libreplanet@sobac.com (LibrePlanet Ontario) LibrePlanet Ontario no Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:00:00 +0000 January 2017 LibrePlanet Ontario meeting Location: Mumble

• Planning Free Software Advocacy (was: Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software Freedom Day 2016)
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• (Lack of) Event and Project organization on the Mailing List
• Contributing a podcast episode to Hacker Public Radio

If there's something else you want to discuss, add it to the this agenda!

• KW GNU/Linux Fest (Waterloo) - 28 January 2017
• ConFoo (Montreal) - 8-10 March 2017

• VOIP (Bob Jonkman prepares for a presentation at KW GNU/Linux Fest)
• Update on Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• We should contribute a LibrePlanet Ontario Meeting podcast to Hacker Public Radio
• American Politics: New US President, FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai, trade agreements.
• Barriers to entry in the software world CRA, Microsoft

There is no text channel transcript this month.

This is likely to be a short, sparsely attended meeting. If you can spare an hour away from your holiday festivities, please come join us!

• Planning Free Software Advocacy (was: Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software Freedom Day 2016)
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• (Lack of) Event and Project organization on the Mailing List

If there's something else you want to discuss, add it to the this agenda!

• KW GNU/Linux Fest (Waterloo) - 28 January 2017
• ConFoo (Montreal) - 8-10 March 2017

• Slight progress with Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project -- Greg Knittl has contacted his Member of Parliament to discuss Free Software in government for tax preparation software
• Greg and Bob exchanged Christmas Greetings!

No Text Channel notes this month.

• Lack of progress in organizing events and project on the mailing list
  • Planning Free Software Advocacy (was: Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software Freedom Day 2016)
  • Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• Timing of meetings: the 24th in December conflicts with the holiday season. Consensus was that the 24th works well every other month.
• Stephen Paul Weber presents Free Culture Libremas Holiday Cards
• Security
  • Whisper Systems, Signal, Telegram, Silence, Conversations, Gajim and OMEMO encryption

Participants: Bob Jonkman, Sergio Durigan Jr., Blaise Alleyne, and Greg Knittl

• Podcasts
• Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software Freedom Day 2016 / Free Software Advocacy

Participants: Bob Jonkman, Stephen Paul Weber, Greg Knittl, and Blaise Alleyne in text chat.

• Software Freedom Day (no progress)
• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project (no progress)
• Electoral Reform
• Software in Medical Facilities

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_September_2016.2C_9:00pm_EDT

Participants: Bob Jonkman, Greg Knittl, Stephen Paul Weber, Blaise Alleyne, and Logan Streondj

Audio Recording: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/PodcastGenerator-master/?name=libreplanetontario-2016-08-241.ogg (71 MBytes, 1h24m)

• Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project
• Software Freedom Day
• How to talk to people about Free Software

Meeting Notes:Group:LibrePlanet Ontario/Meeting Notes/2016-08-24

LibrePlanet Ontario Software Freedom Day: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software_Freedom_Day_2016

LibrePlanet Ontario Free/Libre Canadian Tax Preparation Software Project: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP

Cippic (Canadian Internet Policy adn Public Interest Clinic): https://cippic.ca/

Waterloo Region Greens "Party Rally for Proportional Representation": http://wrgreens.ca/pr4pr/

• Participants: Greg Knittl, Bob Jonkman, Sergio Durigan Junior, Stephen Paul Weber, Blaise Alleyne, Daniel Villarreal.
• Audio recording: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/libreplanetontario-2016-07-24.ogg (73 MBytes, 1h30m)
• Text channel: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/libreplanetontario-2016-07-24%20text%20channel.txt (1.4 kBytes)
• Summary: /LibrePlanet Ontario 2016-07-24 Meeting Notes

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_July_2016

1. Domain names: We'll ask Sergio Durigan Jr., our Hostmaster[1], to set the three domain names (libreplanet.ca, libreplaneton.ca, libreplanetontario.ca) so they're all aliases for our Wiki pagehttps://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario (but this will take a bit more jiggery-pokery than just an A record in DNS). Greg Wright can point the NS records for libreplanetontario.ca to the DNS server that Sergio uses. (Greg and Sergio should contact each other off-list to make this happen)
   1. Sergio will host most services on his server, although Bob Jonkman is happy to continue hosting audio files for an eventual podcast.
   2. libreplanet.ca will be the canonical domain name. Chapters will be a subdomain (sohttp://ontario.libreplanet.ca should also alias to https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario ) Services will be set up as subdomains for ease of administration. So, we'll eventually have nextcloud.libreplanet.ca, gnusocial.libreplanet.ca, gitlab.libreplanet.ca and any others. We can start with podcast.libreplanet.ca -- Bob will chat with Sergio off-list to set this up.
2. Podcasts: Stephen Paul Weber (singpolyma) has a redo script to create a podcast .rss file from folders of audio files. Bob has git-cloned it; just need to figure out how to make it work. Bob will contact Stephon off-list about it. Script stuff athttps://github.com/singpolyma/redo-podcast
3. Lots of discussion on our Free/Libre Canadian Tax Prepartion Software Project, now fondly known as FLCTPSP. There's a wiki page to coordinate the project's activities athttps://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP Blaise had a link to a mailing list:https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfc-discuss.

More: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_June_2016

A mumble meeting with Bob Jonkman, Sergio Durigan Junior, Stephen Paul Weber, and Greg Knittl. An audio recording is availble: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/libreplanetontario-2016-05-24.ogg (42.3 MBytes, 54m46s).

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_May_2016

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_April_2016

• Audio: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/libreplanetontario-2016-03-24.ogg (38.3 MBytes, 1h12m14s)
• Text Channel: https://libreplanet.sobac.com/libreplanetontario-2016-03-24%20text%20channel.txt (3.5 kBytes)

• Projects
• Celebrating events for the Digital Freedom Foundation
  • Hardware Freedom Day (third Saturday in January)
  • Document Freedom Day (last Wednesday of March)
  • Culture Freedom Day (third Saturday in May)
  • Sofware Freedom Day (third Saturday in September)
  • Education Freedom Day

• • Open Data Day (beginning of March) (not a DFF event)